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Is It Necessary to “Spike” Insulin Post-workout?

Interesting discussion from the performance menue site, check this out:

Another concern of the fat-free-post-workout camp is the blunting of the insulin response. The rationale of maximizing the insulin response is to counteract the catabolic nature of the post-trained state, switching the hormonal milieu into an anabolic one, thus speeding recovery. Although this might benefit those who train fasted or semi-fasted, many don’t realize that a pre-exercise meal (and in some cases the mid-exercise meal) is doing more than enough spiking of insulin levels for anticatabolic purposes.

It’s an important objective to not only maximize muscle protein synthesis, but also minimize protein breakdown. However, the latter doesn’t require a massive insulin spike, but rather just a touch beyond basal/resting levels. To illustrate this, Rennie & colleagues found that even during a sustained high blood level of amino acids, no further inhibition of muscle protein breakdown occurred beyond insulin elevation to approximately 15 ?U/l,20 which is slightly above normal basal levels of 5-10 ?U/l.

To reiterate, the pre-exercise meal can have profound effects on insulin levels that surpass the length of the training bout. Tipton’s team found that as little as 6g essential amino acids + 35g sucrose taken immediately before exercise (45-50 minutes of resistance training) was enough to keep insulin elevated to roughly 4x above fasting levels 1-hour post-exercise.21 It took 2 hours post-exercise for insulin to return to resting levels. A similar insulin response was seen with 20g whey by itself taken immediately preworkout.22 If carbs were added to the pre-training protein, there would be yet a greater insulin response.

As far as solid food goes, Capaldo’s team examined various metabolic effects during a five hour period after ingesting a meal composed of 75g carb (47%), 37g prot (26%), and 17g fat (27%).23 Although this study didn’t examine training effects, this meal would make a nice post-workout meal due to its absolute (and proportional) amounts of protein and carbohydrate. The fat-fearing camp would warn against the meal’s fat content interfering with the insulin response. However, this meal was able to raise insulin 3 times above fasting levels within 30 minutes of consumption. At the 60 minute mark, insulin was 5 times greater than fasting. At the 300 minute mark, insulin levels were still double the fasting level.

Elliot and colleagues compared the effect of fat-free milk, whole milk, and a higher dose of fat-free milk (to match the calories of the whole milk) taken 60 minutes post-resistance exercise.24 Whole milk was superior for increasing net protein balance. Interestingly, the calorie-matched dose of fat free milk containing 14.5g protein, versus 8.0g in the whole milk (an 81% advantage), but still got beaten. The investigators speculated over the possible mechanisms behind the outcome (insulin response, blood flow, subject response differences, fat content improving nitrogen retention), but end up dismissing each one in favor of concluding that further research is necessary to see if extra fat calories ingested with an amino acid source will increase muscle protein synthesis. Lingering questions notwithstanding, post-workout milkfat was the factor that clinched the victory – at least in overnight-fasted subjects.

To put another nail in the coffin of the insulin spiking objective, post-exercise glycogen resynthesis is biphasic.25 Unlike the subsequent “slow” phase which can last several hours, the initial “rapid” phase of glycogenesis lasting 30-60 minutes immediately post-exercise is not dependent upon insulin. Maximizing post-workout hyperinsulinemia may be beneficial for athletes with more than a single exhaustive endurance-containing training bout separated by less than approximately 8 hours, but in all other cases, the benefit in “spiking” insulin is nil.

In line with this theme, interesting research has surfaced in recent years challenging the idea that highly glycemic (and thus insulinemic) carbohydrates taken post-workout are the optimal for recovery. Erith’s team found no difference between post-exercise high- and low-glycemic index (GI) carbohydrate intake on exercise performance the following day.26 In a similar study, Stevenson’s team actually saw better next-day performance in subjects who consumed low-GI post-exercise carbohydrate than those who consumed high-GI post-exercise carbohydrate.27

Is spiking insulin necessary post-workout? Generally not.

-No greater inhibition of muscle protein breakdown has been seen beyond insulin elevation to approximately 15 ?U/l, which is slightly above resting/basal levels of 5-10 ?U/l.

-In one study, whole milk was superior for increasing net protein balance post-workout, despite the calorie-matched dose of fat free milk containing 81% more protein.

-The initial 30-60 minute “rapid” phase of glycogenesis immediately post-exercise is not dependent upon insulin.

-There’s no need to attempt to spike insulin for recovery purposes since maximal effects are seen at minimal elevations. Simply getting enough total substrate surrounding the training bout suffices, at least within the context of a 24-hour separation between exhaustive training of the same muscles. Multiple depleting endurance-type bouts per day (i.e., < 8 hours between bouts) may be the exception to this rule.

-On a related tangent, it’s been commonly recommended to maximize post-exercise hyperglycemia and hyperinsulinemia by consuming high-GI carbohydrates. However, this strategy has been seen to offer no benefit on next-day performance, and one recent study even saw endurance impairment.

Quad update

May-31-2008 Posted under Crossfit, Kelly Talk, Olympic Weightlifting

So…8hrs of stretch therapy latter my quad is doing MUCH better. Big issue was re-aligning my body-pelvis was tilted and pretty much everything from my hip to toe on the left side was out of alignment-kind of crazy, on Sunday my left leg was actually an inch shorter than my right, but now I’m all straight! In addition to fixing my alignment he also has been working on the facia tissue. Still a bit of inflammation but definitely SIGNIFICANTLY reduced-I have been using the Traumeel Garett, thanks for the recommendation.

Did absolutely nothing on the leg Friday-Wednesday and then Wednesday night returned to o-lifting to do light power work. Absolutely no squats, just worked on power snatches and cleans from high blocks working and getting full extension and then some light snatch deadlifts. Quad felt pretty good after the session (although I didn’t really use it for anything) although I could feel the outside of hip an the inside of the knee, but went straight from o-lifting to my sisters place (my sisters husband is my rehab therapist) and got things re-aligned again. On Friday I then went back and Power snatches and cleans from the ground (again with comparatively light weights and no full squats). Snatches felt really good, but with the cleans I was having problems generating power from the legs and just felt weak, but then today the light cleans felt much better and I was actually able to get some power transfer from the legs, but still no squats or anything heavy.

So progress is being made, but it will be a while before my leg will be at full strength. Starting to build it up slowly by doing low resistance rows and will start incorporating LIGHT squats to gradually re-build it. Will actually be good for me in that I rely on my leg strength way too much and tend to short the pulls (which I am not able to do power snatching and cleaning from high blocks).

Canadian Nationals

May-20-2008 Posted under Kelly Talk, Olympic Weightlifting

Not the weekend i had planned but definitely an experience.

As i arrived at the hotel a guy i met at westerns was going out for dinner and asked if i wanted to join them. Just so happens he was going with christine girard (the top female lifter in canada) went for breakfast with her sat morning while the boys were getting ready to lift and dietr (the semiamooh coach who was coaching me for the weekend) walked by and commented on how i sure know how to pick my company-first i fall into the hands of a world class coach (dan) then i become friends with the top lifter in the country.

I was glad we got to watch the guys on sat to be able to get a feel for the place. It was crazy. People actually had to pay admission to watch and there were 100 +people and reporters and everything.

I Weighed in at 930 sunday morning. Must have been tossing and turning all night because i Weighed in super light at 56.63.

Warmup area was kind of crazy-there were a lot of lifters in our session so it was a free for all for the bars and weights. The quebec coaches were quite rude-at one point i was about to pick up the bar to do my Last warmup and one of them grabbed the bar from underneath me took off the weight and gave it to his lifter. I needed dan (my nigerian coach with arms the size of my legs) there to fend them off. Despite that warmups went well-did a perfect 57kg snatch for my Last warmup and then went out to do my first attempt at 58kg felt like i was shaking as i walked over to pick up the bar and completly rushed it shorted the pull and couldnt control it. Video of the second attempt is bellow:

But then between my second and third attempt there were 5 lifters and it seemed like they took for ever. Id never waited longer than 2 minutes between lifts before and again rushed the snatch and sent 62kg flying over my head (i snatched 61 2 weeks ago). What sucks about it was the bar seemed light i just started with the weight too far back on my heals shorted it and couldnt control it. A better video is to come but this will do for now:

Warmup for c+j went great. I was even jerking in straight lines :) i did a perfect 72kg in the warmup area and then went out to do my first attempt at 74kg and did a beautiful clean jerked it a bit out front but was able to bring it back in but relaxed the muscles to soon and let one of my elbows rebend on the way up so 2 of the 3 refs said no lift. Second attempt again real nice clean but jerk was out in front again but atleast it counted this time. But between my second and third attempt i had a crazy long wait again-let my muscles get cold and spent way to much time thinking about my jerk so third attempt at 78kg i was thinking of the jerk as i was doing the clean and…ended up with a bruised tail bone and made a mental note to my self that i must complete the clean before i do the jerk:)

So no were near what i wanted to lift and i was pretty disappointed with it yesterday but guy greavette put it in perspective by ponting out that in terms of experience i was the youngest lifter by far and in my ”bad day” still posted a total high enough to qualify for nationals which i would have been happy with 5 weeks ago at westerns. My response was ‘but that was 5 weeks ago. ‘

But the session after me had christine girard in it and she lifted 2 new canadian records. Absolutly amazing to watch. Check out all the fans clapping after her clean and jerk record (and just think this is only panning about 1/2 the gym)

And then after she invited me back to her celebration party at the hotel. Pretty Cool. About 15 family memebers rented a bus and drove 9 hrs to watch her so i spent the night drinking way too much with them.

This video of Jeans canadian Record snatch is also pretty cool:


And thats my nationals experience. Feeling much better about it today than i was yesterday. And now im all psyched to go to seafest end of june (which is in whiterock if any one wants to come and watch) and post my 63/82.

But ill post more and better videos when i get them sent to me.

Another Cool O-lifting video

May-18-2008 Posted under Kelly Talk, Olympic Weightlifting

Check this out:

Cool O-lifting Video

May-14-2008 Posted under Kelly Talk, Olympic Weightlifting

check out this video

CrossFit_BurgLunchtimeOlifting.mov

These are they guys from Mikes Gym down in San Diego. Pretty cool huh?